Monday, June 11, 2007
The End of "The Sopranos" Final Episode: I Loved It
By MARC McDONALD
(Warning: spoilers follow).
It's nearing the end of the final episode of "The Sopranos," and it looks like Tony Soprano is nearing the end of the line.
Indeed, all the cliched indicators are in place. Tony has spent the entire episode, essentially saying goodbye to the important people in his life. Now, he is seated at a restaurant, along with his wife and son.
There are several suspicious looking characters in the place. One of them is a shady-looking man who keeps nervously glancing at Tony's table. He finally gets up and disappears into the bathroom, not far from where Tony's booth is.
Journey's "Don't Stop Believing," is playing in the background. The song is nearing its end. Tony's daughter is arriving late to the gathering, after having a difficult time parallel parking outside the eatery. Finally, she parks and runs across the street and opens the front door.
Tony looks up.
And then: the screen goes black.
I'm sure a lot of viewers are going, "WTF"?
A lot of them likely feeling confused and/or cheated.
But I thought it was brilliant.
No ending could have possibly topped this.
The audience was expecting some sort of concrete resolution. They wanted all the loose ends tied up. They wanted a dramatic finale. And most of all, they wanted a big, violent, climactic ending.
They wanted it to be spoon-fed to them.
But nothing beats the power and depth of the human imagination. And, so now, for all time, the ending will up to whatever our own imaginations conceive it to be. That's far more memorable than any cut-and-dried resolution could ever be.
It was a bold, creative risk on the part of the producers---and, for me at least, it worked.
(Warning: spoilers follow).
It's nearing the end of the final episode of "The Sopranos," and it looks like Tony Soprano is nearing the end of the line.
Indeed, all the cliched indicators are in place. Tony has spent the entire episode, essentially saying goodbye to the important people in his life. Now, he is seated at a restaurant, along with his wife and son.
There are several suspicious looking characters in the place. One of them is a shady-looking man who keeps nervously glancing at Tony's table. He finally gets up and disappears into the bathroom, not far from where Tony's booth is.
Journey's "Don't Stop Believing," is playing in the background. The song is nearing its end. Tony's daughter is arriving late to the gathering, after having a difficult time parallel parking outside the eatery. Finally, she parks and runs across the street and opens the front door.
Tony looks up.
And then: the screen goes black.
I'm sure a lot of viewers are going, "WTF"?
A lot of them likely feeling confused and/or cheated.
But I thought it was brilliant.
No ending could have possibly topped this.
The audience was expecting some sort of concrete resolution. They wanted all the loose ends tied up. They wanted a dramatic finale. And most of all, they wanted a big, violent, climactic ending.
They wanted it to be spoon-fed to them.
But nothing beats the power and depth of the human imagination. And, so now, for all time, the ending will up to whatever our own imaginations conceive it to be. That's far more memorable than any cut-and-dried resolution could ever be.
It was a bold, creative risk on the part of the producers---and, for me at least, it worked.
Comments:
I'm very disappointed. I hate these cliffhanger endings, especially for a series finale. David Chase should have learned from the other great HBO series "six feet under." Now that's how you end a series.
I disagree. I find the entire season comparable to hiring a $2000 hooker and not being able to have my happy ending.
This show was never about big thinking man style artistic endings and one certainly didnt belong here either. Just like every other Sopranos season, they creep slowly up to the end then leave you hanging for next season. Except this time, theres no next season.
This show was never about big thinking man style artistic endings and one certainly didnt belong here either. Just like every other Sopranos season, they creep slowly up to the end then leave you hanging for next season. Except this time, theres no next season.
I can definitely see the attempt at an open-ended resolution to the show...but the way in which they went to black looked more like a fuck up on the cable transmission than a definitive "fade" in showbiz...if they would have done it a little more artfully, I could live with that. But all in all, I hated flippin out like my Tivo was screwed up. 3/5
The ending was very stupid. The writer should be wacked. Im glad it is over now we dont have to wait for anymore crap writing.Seasons 1-4 where the best.
I agree completely!
There was no way it could have ended that would have prevented people from complaining. It's amazing how many viewers become directors/writers/producers when something does not go as they expect.
very nicely done!
There was no way it could have ended that would have prevented people from complaining. It's amazing how many viewers become directors/writers/producers when something does not go as they expect.
very nicely done!
I am in total agreement with you. I thought it was a tremendous episode and I literally was at the edge of my seat at the very end--when the screen went black, I thought I would hear gunshots next. But nothing! It really was a bold move by David Chase to go out with that ending. I also don't think there will be a Sopranos movie. Gandolfini is sick of the character, and Chase has been quoted as saying that he is dried up of storylines.
Let's leave it for what it is/was--one of the greatest television dramas ever and one that we will remember for a long time to come.
Let's leave it for what it is/was--one of the greatest television dramas ever and one that we will remember for a long time to come.
I agree, if you stop and think about it for a minute, it becomes obvious. Tony is killed by the man who went into the bathroom.
I agree. It was a great way to end a wonderful show. It left it up to our imagination rather that slapping our face with it.
I'm not sure how you contrived a visits to the people in his life as his "swan song" but ... The reality of the episode and title is/should be
Life goes on/maybe i am a sociopath.
the journey song was just that..don't stop believing and life continues
Life goes on/maybe i am a sociopath.
the journey song was just that..don't stop believing and life continues
the whole family got done. The guy who went to the bathroom & those black dudes wacked the whole family. It was quite gruesome so he didn't show it.
Brilliant! David Chase understands the human condition. All human beings want closure. All human beings want to believe in good and evil, heaven and hell. But as this episode has shown sometimes things just are what they are.
That was a weird ending. I know its trying to continue to be thought provoking but please. Don't hint at possibilities and not come through. Also, shouldn't there have been some fallout from the hit on Phil in front of his grandkids? To many loose ends...
See, I'm glad you enjoyed it because I'm taking heat on my site for thinking this ending was awesome! That entire restaurant scene was so intense. From the music, to the staggered arrivals of Tony's family, to Meadow's difficulty with parallel parking... Had David Chase ended it with them breaking bread, people would be upset. Had he ended it with a definitive whacking, people would have been left with nothing.
I almost ripped my TIVO out of the media center. I ran to the bedrroom where another DVR was recording thinking it got it. AARGH! THAT WAS the ending. No comment on whether it was stupid or brilliant but my blood pressure was through the roof watching the final scene. Was the next guy through the door gonna wack em all? Was the guy going to come out of the bathroom and gun him down? Was the whole place gonna expolode as Meadow walked toward the door? Whatever your opinion it was intense, right up to the blanl screen. I think what the rers are saying is - write youir own ending.
Chase is going to need that extra security he hired because people were so pissed that he is ending it. Personally I thought it sucked. I as well thought my cable was screwed up and started having a heart attack because I was waiting for something, I wasnt partial to a big violent ending and I wasnt partial to a happy ending but any ending that actually ended and gave some kind of conclusion would of been a HELL of a lot better than what happened tonight....
I think it may be too intelectual for your average watcher to swallow. Its really the same ending as Hemingway's "For Whom the Bell Tolls." The main character is in the midst of a battle and then the book ends - with an unfinished sentence. Is death really the cesation of all senses. I do feel a bit jipped that Chase didn't cary the light symbol from Tony's out-of-body experience through to the end. It was with Carmella in Paris, with Tony on his Peyote trip, and shining through the window (at night) when he was aiting with the rifle.
Anyone else feel like it was a big joke to see how many people could simultaneously jump up and yell WTF at their televisions, thinking the cable had gone out. Once everything made sense in my head, it made me think of Andy Kaufman.
But beyond that, I am still coming to terms with the ending. Part of me thinks it was great. The exhilerating build-up only to hit that black wall. But that's a one-time thrill. Tomorrow...I will want the closure that I will never get.
Maybe when that feeling hits me, the DvD set will have an alternative ending that I can pretend was the real one.
But beyond that, I am still coming to terms with the ending. Part of me thinks it was great. The exhilerating build-up only to hit that black wall. But that's a one-time thrill. Tomorrow...I will want the closure that I will never get.
Maybe when that feeling hits me, the DvD set will have an alternative ending that I can pretend was the real one.
How dense does one have to be to not get the ending? The show's from Tony's perspective...he gets whacked...his perspective very suddenly "cuts to black". Where's the "cliffhanger"? Where's the mystery? this ending was briliant and crystal clear. Alarming, yes. But confusing? for a 12 year old; but they shouldn't be watching. or posting.
Flashback to Bobby and Tony in the boat last week: "you don't hear it coming and when you die I suppose it just goes black"....I'm afraid that's what happened here.
i think the writer of this blog is related to one of the writers. My opinion is WTF -- it sucked. Plain and simple. Just bad. This season left a lot to be desired. No brilliance, no great or clever writing.
i think the writer of this blog is related to one of the writers. My opinion is WTF -- it sucked. Plain and simple. Just bad. This season left a lot to be desired. No brilliance, no great or clever writing.
The writer of this blog is a dope. I will cancel HBO tomorrow a.m. My simple way of sending them a message. If others cancel as well, than they will get the message that the point is to entertain and not annoy.
The 3 final episodes will come out in random with the "box set".
Get it, Not all the of the final 3 will be in one set.
Get it, Not all the of the final 3 will be in one set.
This is kinda weird, but the episode I saw out here had the family being shot in the diner. It showed everything. The guy came out of the bathroom ala Pacino and when Meadow came into the diner, the guy had a gun pointed at Tony's head. Then, when Tony looked up, the gun jammed, he ducked, the wife got it in head, Meadow screamed and then Tony stood up. The gun fired again this time through Tony's stomach into his son's chest. Then, Tony was shot in the head.
What ending are you guys talking about? Meadow was the only survivor. I am in the Midwest..Kansas. And I'm telling you all, THIS IS the ending that we saw here. I have no idea what you guys are talking about...
What ending are you guys talking about? Meadow was the only survivor. I am in the Midwest..Kansas. And I'm telling you all, THIS IS the ending that we saw here. I have no idea what you guys are talking about...
He didn't see Uncle Junior to say good-bye to him, he wanted to find out where Jun's stash of money was. I don't think he was making an effort to say goodbye to anyone.
You don't know what happened; there is no resolute ending. You can say he was killed, the whole family was killed, he was arrested, or they finished the onion rings.
You don't know what happened; there is no resolute ending. You can say he was killed, the whole family was killed, he was arrested, or they finished the onion rings.
The ending we saw - or did not see - essentially had the cable signal go blank. Hence the reason for the anger. Yes, canceling HBO tomorrow.
What a dick!
I should have learned my lesson from Stephen King's Dark Tower series.
The moral is: don't let yourself get involved in the works of egotistical "artistes" who have tired of the concept.
I know..."it's not about the ending, it's about THE STORY."
Bullshit! Don't we deserve better?
I should have learned my lesson from Stephen King's Dark Tower series.
The moral is: don't let yourself get involved in the works of egotistical "artistes" who have tired of the concept.
I know..."it's not about the ending, it's about THE STORY."
Bullshit! Don't we deserve better?
you loved the ending? go suck a film school teacher....that ending (if you want to call it that) was cowardly at best
Tony asked Bobby what he thought it was like when you got whacked. Bobby said "I guess it just goes black" ... that's why it went black when Tony died. Sorry folks, no movie unless it's the life and times of Pauly.
Its a stupid ending which is gonna be debated for a long time. The good part about it , no one who watched this show will ever forget how it ended, the bad thing is , no one who watched this show will forget how it ended.
This ending sucked. WHAT EVER HAPPEND TO THE RUSSIAN ??????
We will never know.
This ending sucked. WHAT EVER HAPPEND TO THE RUSSIAN ??????
We will never know.
The end of the Soprano's is brilliant. A brilliant way for HBO to milk more money from a cash cow that died 3 seasons ago..movie? maybe, DVD's again maybe. One way or another they're going to try to make more money from this. Not me. I shoulda stopped watching at the end of season 4. The guy who said this is brilliant can have his pocket picked by HBO
I'll be one of the dissenters. Yes, I would have liked to have seen more, but I think this was a brilliant end to the show. A perfect cliffhanger for a movie...or a perfect place to be left wondering what might happen next.
Lot's of loose ends ... but when you get whacked that's the way it is. Life doesn't get wrapped up with a neat little bow.
The one thing that resonates is that the feeling of huge anxiety that we all felt watching that last scene -- expecting him to get hit any second -- is exactly what Tony feels all the time. He lives, but that tense feeling is always with him. Having said that, I didn't really dig this ending, it did seem like a cable fk up.
THe whole show I was watching the clock, waiting for something to happen. It was such a standard episode, I couldnt understand how he was going to pull off thi s big finish with so little time left on the clock, and Then of course it just ends and I am totally pissed, because I get what he was trying to do, that in the end he has shown that life trully does go on, but still - it seems like a cop out. Six feet under is still to me the best series finale EVER
I agree, I like the way the ending makes you think ... but I didn't really like it ... I thought my tv screwed up too.
Pure crap final episode that was consistent with the whole season. Chase is not bold or a genius. He's just a business guy making a buck and went one season too long. He didn't go out on top.You would think his writers walked out on the show and they had to get a few amateurs to jump in to finish this thing.The fact is they ran out of material 3 seasons ago when they shifted focus to "Carmella's feelings" and all the soap opera bullshit that followed. Viewers always expected the show to bounce back to its early strength .. but, the writers forgot what they were doing right and Tony became a caricature of himself this season.
The final episode was pathetic and a waste of time to watch.
The final episode was pathetic and a waste of time to watch.
Like most people , i felt cheated and confused , but the Sopranos has never been conventional. Why give people what they want, give em' what they need. Stir up a s#*@ storm , make people use they're imagination for once ..bravo Mr. Chase!
I think you're completely right about the finale. There was just no other way it could have ended. To me, it was perfect.
if there's a movie out by 2009 it was a great ending; otherwise, an artisitic ending forced upon an an unartisitic show that ran for 7 years is a garbage and shows that Chase and crew ran out of steam and punted the last season... very boring.
You are correct, the unknown is the best way to end. David Chase allows the viewer to come up with their own interpretation although I cannot shake the suspicion that the strange characters in the diner take Tony out. Either way, the viewer understands Tony's career is over and that jail awaits him in the near future.
The last episode was the last attempt to wrap everything up. Soprano's fans are so linked in with Tony's character that we struggle with the unknown. I would argue the unknown is reality and the writer's have kept us linked in for years for such brilliant cliffhangers: why is everyone so surprised?
The last episode was the last attempt to wrap everything up. Soprano's fans are so linked in with Tony's character that we struggle with the unknown. I would argue the unknown is reality and the writer's have kept us linked in for years for such brilliant cliffhangers: why is everyone so surprised?
The thought about what Bobby said a few episodes back makes sense. Whoever posted about the ending where the family is shot in the diner is a fucking loser.
You know, you don't have to show it, just let me hear the gunshots...I needed closure, and it looks like we wait until DVD to get it...hopefully.
You know, you don't have to show it, just let me hear the gunshots...I needed closure, and it looks like we wait until DVD to get it...hopefully.
I know I'll probably get cursed, but I'm one of few that enjoyed it.
The music was great, the conversation was perfect, amazing suspense. Totally wasn't expected, and that's why I think it was great!
The music was great, the conversation was perfect, amazing suspense. Totally wasn't expected, and that's why I think it was great!
No way Tony got killed, especially from the guy in the bathroom. It would be way too cliche to rip from the Godfather after all the great writing over the years. Maybe I might have bought into it a little if the camera angle wasn't looking at Tony's face when it went black...had it been the case we would have seen Tony seeing Meadow walkin in then blackness...I mean hasn't anyone ever seen the end of "The Professional"?
I think it's clear that the guy in the bathroom or others involved were told not to kill the family until they all showed up. When Meadow came in and you heard her open the door, that was the symbolic ending of the family.
What WILL piss me off is if David Chase remains ambiguous about the ending. He will be hounded tomorrow for answers and if he pulls that "It's up to the viewer" bullshit, he better go into hiding.
What WILL piss me off is if David Chase remains ambiguous about the ending. He will be hounded tomorrow for answers and if he pulls that "It's up to the viewer" bullshit, he better go into hiding.
Writing went downhill after writers Robin Greene and her partner Mitch were let go before this last season...
Long live Sil...
Long live Sil...
If you thought this was the perfect ending you are most likely a Paris Hilton/ George Bush fan and/or supporter. This ending sucked! No, Chase did not leave it blank because Tony and the whole family gets whacked you morons! He did it so he can steal another 2 hours or so out of your life along with $12; when he makes a movie! He is a sell out and I know that I am not the only one that feels this way. My time along with millions of others is to important to set aside and be wasted like this. HBO and their programming in my opinion has been going downhill and this was the breaking point for me and I have already called my cable company to have it removed! What a crock! Great episode….. Ya and Paris should be allowed to go home from jail because of her “Medical condition”. People need to wake the hell up!
Chase is saying "You are Tony" by making the screen go blank when Tony gets whacked. Remember how Bobby says to him, out on the row boat, "They say you never see it coming?" well ....
I'm really confused. My TV didn't go blank. Tony, Carmella and AJ were shot, the only doubt was whether Meadow got shot
Why doesnt everyone get it? Tony was whacked!!!!!!! Didnt any one else notice the strange italian man that walked in before AJ? Remember the first episode when Bobby and Tony were fishing? Bobby asked Tony what it would be like to be shot and if you hear anything. Remember in the last episode when Tony was in the bedroom at the safe house, and then it cut to the scene again with Bobby and Tony fishing. The weird italian guy went to the bathroom (or so it seemed) and than killed Tony, it just went black and silent. Tony never heard it coming. I think butchy had Tony killed because he killed Phil infront of his family, and butchy was probably afraid of Tony after he shot Silvio, and Bobby. Because if Silvio wakes up, he is gonna want payback, remember that.
Despite what many of you think , the series could not have ended any better than that, leave it up the viever , use your imagination.. There is no doubt Pauley had something to do with the hit, hence his hesitation leaving the Bada Bing. long live Pauley Walnuts!!!
I really don't know what to say or think of the ending at first i thought it was stupid. i guess a part of me thinks it still is a stupid ending. It was a great show and it just finished like that !!!! But in the other end i kind of understanding why it ended this way ( even though i disagree with it) the fact is Tony was not gonna get wacked in front of his family... Too many people around - cameras and etc... 2. I think the writter did leave it to our imagination and let me tell u there was a mob war going on - when that starts its never over finished and that;s why they didnt make it a happy ending just.. tommorow is another day for Tony where he can get wacked then.. the fact is that once your in the mob ur life is always at risk no matter what... you never know when something happens to you ... and thats why it ended that why. However, as said did not like the ending I think the full show tonite kinds of sucked - I really expected more....
There is no way Paulie had Tony whacked. I know this because it is in Tony Siricos contract that he does not betray the boss. He said that is the only condition in which he would do the show. That is why he is the only one that is left at the end.
What a letdown, I'm totally disappointed and now promise I won't watch it next season. Seriously, I heard that David Chase had written and filmed three ending to keep the final episode secret. Instead, the truth is he didn’t have an ending. Now we fill in the blank screen. Let’s see, Tony, Carmela, Meadow, and AJ get food poisoning from the onion rings they were eating. They rush to the bathroom and find the suspicious stranger from the counter in a stall with AJ’s friend Rhiannon. Dr. Melfi taps Tony on the shoulder and says “Have you seen the ducks? They were delicious!” Brilliant! I see $$$ in the black screen, they left themselves open for a future HBO movie.
The last season of the Soprano's left alot to be desired. I couldn't help but think, will the Russians come back, what about the guy that had a crush on Carmela... then strange things kept happening week after week.
Phil talking like a canary, Chris getting back into drugs then his death, the FBI guy turning in favor of the NJ Mafia, Anthony's depression, suicide attempt than full recovery, new charactors with absolutely nothing to do with the story....
Come on if we wanted a roller coaster we would have gone to Six Flags!
An earlier blog mentioned closure - we NEED closure - too bad HBO couldn't deliver
Phil talking like a canary, Chris getting back into drugs then his death, the FBI guy turning in favor of the NJ Mafia, Anthony's depression, suicide attempt than full recovery, new charactors with absolutely nothing to do with the story....
Come on if we wanted a roller coaster we would have gone to Six Flags!
An earlier blog mentioned closure - we NEED closure - too bad HBO couldn't deliver
The last season of the Soprano's left alot to be desired. I couldn't help but think, will the Russians come back, what about the guy that had a crush on Carmela... then strange things kept happening week after week.
Phil talking like a canary, Chris getting back into drugs then his death, the FBI guy turning in favor of the NJ Mafia, Anthony's depression, suicide attempt than full recovery, new charactors with absolutely nothing to do with the story....
Come on if we wanted a roller coaster we would have gone to Six Flags!
An earlier blog mentioned closure - we NEED closure - too bad HBO couldn't deliver
Phil talking like a canary, Chris getting back into drugs then his death, the FBI guy turning in favor of the NJ Mafia, Anthony's depression, suicide attempt than full recovery, new charactors with absolutely nothing to do with the story....
Come on if we wanted a roller coaster we would have gone to Six Flags!
An earlier blog mentioned closure - we NEED closure - too bad HBO couldn't deliver
funny reading all the low IQ, dumb nuts who need to be spoon fed EVERYTHING so that they can thumbsuck it and appease their vacuous heads. This is, in a strange way, an indicator of the problems this country (and the west in particular) has. An overwhelming number of plebs who can't think for themselves, only programmed by social life and life is tv. I loved it and hated it too, must be the pleb in me from living amongst phlegms.
I think that they left it open-ended so they could do a "Lost" and "Sopranos" hybrid in 2011 when ABC and HBO join forces. Then they can continue to screw with the American TV watcher with their weekly cliffhangers for decades to come. Anybody notice John Locke peeling a guava with a knife at the bar? It was subtle...
I hate to break the bad news, but Chase said he is not going to do a movie. He said the last episode tied everything up. The 6th season is what he wanted to do the movie about. No movie guys!!
David Chase is a control freak. His ego basically told him to screw loyal viewers witht he worse ending since Bobby Ewing was in the shower and told Pam Ewing that the whole season was a dream....Screw him....
We are such SUCKERS! Cancel HBO for a few months and send the message... or stop your whining. Take action. I canceled HBO a few years ago a survived just fine without it. RESCUE ME on FX is coming to the rescue for those needing entertainment.
HBO just announced the Soprano's movie! It's going to be called The Soprano's, the life and times of Paulie. Tony is dead. The only question is whether he was shot in front of his family, or the restaurant exploded and they all died.
Fantastic ending. As usual everyone wants the spoon fed ending they have brainwashed to like and if they have to think then all they can do is say it sucked. Well it didnt, it was perfect. Personally I think over 75% of the audience for this show didnt understand what the entie series was about let alone this episode so their reactions are no surprise
The writers decided to screw the public. They knew that the viewers were tired of their shitty writing and were excited for some closure. How much are we all paying for HBO?
If you ask me, the guy who went into the bathroom is probably just an old high school buddy of Tony, the Black guys who came in were there to have supper, and Meadow sat down and ate the last onion ring, much to the dismay of that fucking AJ. But Carmela, she probably got shot in the face.
You are one of many, my friend. There will be a lot of people out there who think the ending of the finest television program of all time was completely appropriate. However, you are wrong. As a film and television scholar and writer I can say this ending was pretentious and over wrought. The way it ended was, in my opinion, supposed to be a curve ball because the mass audience expected Tony to be killed or go to jail. Having neither happen leaves me with a sense of lose. Lose in the sense of nearly a decade watching this program. From the get go, we expected to see one of the two (either death or incarceration), and to be given neither is a travesty. The final episode will go down in history as the worst in the annals of the great television tome. Even Sienfeld's ending. Though obtuse, had finality to it. Chase owes us (the collective audience) more. But you should feel solace in the idea that you are setting yourself apart from the herd. Believe me though that the majority of people are against you, and rightly so. I am not sure if you have spent some time (and from the looks of your posting, not a lot of time) drafting your blog regarding this episode, but my suggestion is to set aside the feeling of self-congratulatory pomp and reexamine the way this story ended. If you decide not to take heed of my suggestion, please prepare yourself for the onslaught of criticisms you will no doubt hear. I certainly hope the irritation you face tomorrow is worth the feeling of “I am better than you because…”, if not, you are truly the poster child for the uneducated self important pariah of television criticism.
P.S. I know I have used a lot of big words that undoubtedly fall outside your lexicon (this is based on the assumption that you are, in fact, a trained chimp who has gotten hold of a keyboard). Luckily, Bubbles, there are things called “Dictionaries”. Large books with the meaning of words. So if you don’t grasp the underline theme that I think you’re an idiot, please feel free to look any words you don’t understand
P.S. I know I have used a lot of big words that undoubtedly fall outside your lexicon (this is based on the assumption that you are, in fact, a trained chimp who has gotten hold of a keyboard). Luckily, Bubbles, there are things called “Dictionaries”. Large books with the meaning of words. So if you don’t grasp the underline theme that I think you’re an idiot, please feel free to look any words you don’t understand
Yeah, right, Tony is eating at a local family restaurant where 2 black guys come in ... and it's all perfectly normal. I'm sure they sat down in the next booth and asked Tony if the manicotti is good.
For all the pompous intellectual posers who have written to say most of the audience are retards ... well, if the shoe fits. Let's face it, if these posers ( or poseurs) were the real thing intellectually, they'd be doing something different with their time.
For all the pompous intellectual posers who have written to say most of the audience are retards ... well, if the shoe fits. Let's face it, if these posers ( or poseurs) were the real thing intellectually, they'd be doing something different with their time.
At first I too was completely pissed. But now that I have calmed down some food for thought. The suspicious guy in the diner looked more like an FBI agent than a mob hitman. You would have to think that with Phil's murder, Tony is suspect #1 and was being tailed. What does the blank screen mean? Plenty of possibilities, I guess that was the point. Frustrating but I think Chase achieved his goal. Here we are wasting time talking about the ending.
Whenever a bell rings, an angel get it's wings. Anybody remember that one? They bought it, the whole family.
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thats is where is continues, with the fellas from www.badspace.com
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thats is where is continues, with the fellas from www.badspace.com
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I agree. A brilliantly conceived ending. BUT, I too spent a few seconds wondering if something had gone wrong with the tv, cable, or whatever. And the momentary confusion detracted from impact of the ending. This could easily have been avoided by having the credits instantly follow the black out. No question then that it was over. Nevertheless, a great finish to a great show I will be in withdrawal for quite some time.
The film and television scholar should learn to spell ... I guess that didn't teach that at tv school.
Of all the scenes over 7 years of the show, that one will be burned into my memory... Something about tense, mundane, and out of a strange environment.
far from a perfect ending, but yes everyone will be talking about it, my two cents is that David Chase who wrote and directed the last episode, is a self absorbed a-hole, the fade to black was to make guys like me, have an mba, freak out to see if the Tivo cut off the ending, which happened with American Idol when my daughters were tivo'ing it. The rest of the episode blew, who gives a rat's ass about AJ, the best scenes are between Tony and Janice and Paulie and the cat...
From a look at the posts it looks like Chase got his wish and people are just continuing to talk about what may have happened. This is fiction -- Life is full of surprises, I would have liked to know what the hell happens in that diner.
Has anyone stopped to think how for the first time, the family was happy ... Carmen was starting another house, AJ was in a job he liked, Meadow was starting a law career ... and then when they are all together and full of smiles ... whack!
We wanted a final episode to a great series. What we got was a final episode only worthy of a season. And hints and open ended story lines that point toward an ongoing future.
As for those who insist that Tony and family are all killed. Chase is not going to violate the rules of the fictive world he has created in its final minutes. Family members are not killed unless there is no choice. It makes NO sense to kill Tony's family. He has squared things with the New York family, even got permission to take out Phil. No on is looking to kill him. It makes no sense for the story line we have been given.
Instead, Chase pumps up the tension and tells us, this is Tony's life all the time, and it will go "on and on and on and on . . " as the song reminds us.
But he also cheats a bit, by slying suggesting the possibility of a sequel. "Don't stop, believing . . ." And with that bit of open ended narrative direction I am disappointed. I expected better things of a master.
I appreciate earlier comments about how "you don't see it coming . . ." when the end comes. I didn't see this and it sure went black for the viewer at an unexpected moment. We're the victim, not Tony.
As for those who insist that Tony and family are all killed. Chase is not going to violate the rules of the fictive world he has created in its final minutes. Family members are not killed unless there is no choice. It makes NO sense to kill Tony's family. He has squared things with the New York family, even got permission to take out Phil. No on is looking to kill him. It makes no sense for the story line we have been given.
Instead, Chase pumps up the tension and tells us, this is Tony's life all the time, and it will go "on and on and on and on . . " as the song reminds us.
But he also cheats a bit, by slying suggesting the possibility of a sequel. "Don't stop, believing . . ." And with that bit of open ended narrative direction I am disappointed. I expected better things of a master.
I appreciate earlier comments about how "you don't see it coming . . ." when the end comes. I didn't see this and it sure went black for the viewer at an unexpected moment. We're the victim, not Tony.
Here's San Jose Mercury's just published take on last episode. Smart, useful.
Anway, relax. And quick calling each other names. Bascially black screen is the cinematic equivalent of a flatline on a bedside hospital EKG screen.
In other words: "Tone" is officially dead. Others may or may not be. Doesn't matter.
Clever--protagonist perspective-ending. Whether it made you feel good/bad/confused.
Chase is into turning television conventions upside-down. He's subverting "expected" characters/plots/values/endings.
That's why television (and we all) "need" him. He's teaching us to empathize, to think, to imagine...
Bravo!
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_6110292
Anway, relax. And quick calling each other names. Bascially black screen is the cinematic equivalent of a flatline on a bedside hospital EKG screen.
In other words: "Tone" is officially dead. Others may or may not be. Doesn't matter.
Clever--protagonist perspective-ending. Whether it made you feel good/bad/confused.
Chase is into turning television conventions upside-down. He's subverting "expected" characters/plots/values/endings.
That's why television (and we all) "need" him. He's teaching us to empathize, to think, to imagine...
Bravo!
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_6110292
The ending was perfect!!! now we can imagine the ending we wanted...(plus it leaves a opening for more someday)....I was really mad at first but after a while I realized it was a great way to end a show......now I want to see how they will end deadwood LOL....
Well, I have been a big fan of the show, so I figured I should express my opinion. First of all, I must agree with the person who mentioned that the credits should have rolled directly. I too was confused and I didnt have a chance for the ending to sink in. Secondly, I thought it was a daring ending. The whole episode, hell, the whold last nine where this huge build up to what was an enormous climax that although may have pissed off at least half the people here, no one could look away. HBO did their job in making this episode probably the biggest series finale in a long time. Also, if the ending wasnt to your liking, that just too bad. You arent going to be able to reach any point of resolution, just more questions and of course that was the point. There is no way Chase could have thought up an ending that hadnt already been done a thousand times. The point was to piss us off, to cause us to draw our own conclusions, to make us part of the story ourselves.
Now that I have said all of that, here is my take on the final scene. From the beginning of the scene with all of the ominous characters I never once thought that Tony was going to be killed. Sure, it may have been hiding behind my urge to see him live and prevail, but I still didnt believe it. We found out that Carlo had flipped and no
Now that I have said all of that, here is my take on the final scene. From the beginning of the scene with all of the ominous characters I never once thought that Tony was going to be killed. Sure, it may have been hiding behind my urge to see him live and prevail, but I still didnt believe it. We found out that Carlo had flipped and no
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