Thursday, September 10, 2009

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC), Not Obama, Is A Liar

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President Obama: "There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false---the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."

Rep. Joe Wilson: "You Lie!"


As CrooksAndLiars.com points out, Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) shows once again that the Republicans have "no class and no respect for government and Americans."

Wilson yelled out "You lie!" when President Obama reassured Americans during his nationally televised speech Wednesday that his health care reform plan did not include illegal aliens. As C&L noted: "Disgusting. Can you imagine the uproar if a Democrat had so little class as to do that during one of Bush's speeches?"

And as Media Matters points out, it's Wilson, not Obama, who is the liar.

Neither the President's plan, nor H.R. 3200 cover undocumented aliens.

From Media Matters:

House Bill: "No Federal Payment for Undocumented Aliens." According to America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, Page 143, Line 3, Section 246: "No Federal Payment for Undocumented Aliens. Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States." [America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, accessed 7/22/09]

9 comments:

Jack Jodell said...

Wilson illustrates perfectly what is wrong with today's far-right Republican Party: they are strong on big mouth, opposition, and dishonesty, and very, VERY weak on civility, compromise and cooperation, and fact and truth. They are ignorant and sloppy on research, and they behave like spoiled little brats long overdue for a severe ass-blistering. I hope Obama DOES call them out for their bull, and that he'll also slam them into the mat head first like they deserve!

Amy said...

I can't believe the inappropriate and disrespectful behavior towards our president.

Marc McDonald said...

Hi Jack and Amy, thanks for your comments.
Yes, Obama should have called out Wilson on his bull. It would have been great if Obama had stopped his speech and demanded that Wilson come forward and join him at the podium and explain himself before the nation.
Bush lied through his teeth to the nation in speech after speech for eight years and the Dems never once offered anything but polite applause.

Chris aka Red Hog said...

Hey Marc,
It's not so much just the "far right" anymore Marc. Wilson? Who the heck is he? We had never heard from him before. And Chuck Grassley from my old home state of Iowa has lost his mind as well. Grassley used to be a United States Senator but has proven himself to have resigned that position to become a Republican Senator. The list goes on and on of the bad behavior and outright lies from the right. Did you see Boener (minority leader) standing up for Wilson this afternoon? Even or maybe especially even the GOP leadership has lost its mind. That's okay with me. It should do nothing but cost GOP seats in upcoming elections.

Jack Jodell said...

Chris aka Red Hog is correct: this far right uncivil and uncooperative behavior has now permeated nearly the entire Republican Party. Every time I look at Boehner, all I see is an expression of seething hatred on his face. I hope and believe Chris aka Red Hog's prophecy about the GOP losing more seats will be correct. That party as it stands now is unfit to govern and ill-suited to hold any public office.

Paul Scott said...

Hi - I am just getting started trying to understand this issue better and do have a concern that those of us on the progressive side need to resolve. While there is very specific language in the bill about not allowing illegal aliens benefits, there is also a provision in the bill that says you cannot discriminate in applying the bill. Based on this it appears there is a loop-hole that illegals can exploit. Additionally the bill is silent on the notion of identification...so how do I explain this to my right-wing friends?

Marc McDonald said...

Hi Red Hog, good to hear from you.
Yes, I agree, the "far right" pretty much IS the right these days. I hope you are correct about the GOP losing seats in 2010. But historically, the odds don't look good. BTW, I hope you get to blogging soon; I look forward to reading your blog again.

Marc McDonald said...

re:
>>>Additionally the bill is
>>>silent on the notion of
>>>identification...so how do I
>>>explain this to my right-wing
>>>friends?

The right-wingers are always the ones that go bat-sh*t crazy at the mere thought of any national ID card. (And yet, that's really the only way to keep illegal immigrants from getting treatment at hospitals----that is: requiring everyone to show ID providing that they're a citizen).
So this is a question that the wingnuts need to answer: do they want a national ID card for everyone?

TEGS said...

Joe Wilson is a jerk who owes the American people an apology for is ridiculous outburst.

But,

I think what he was eluding to is the fact that President Obama wants to fast track illegal immigrants already in the country into citizenship eg. we wont cover illegal immigrants, we'll just make them citizens.

Regardless of his ideology, in my opinion he disrespected not only the President Obama, but every American citizen.

It's time for the GOP to step up and serve the best interests of the people who put them in office, not their own partisan agenda.