tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11753985.post115302964055539327..comments2023-12-03T02:23:12.272-06:00Comments on BeggarsCanBeChoosers.com: Military Blogs Show How Propagandized U.S. Troops AreMarc McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17105754072842852126noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11753985.post-45119475106670898932008-12-20T20:29:00.000-06:002008-12-20T20:29:00.000-06:00Soldiers blogs are nowadays watched and criticized...Soldiers blogs are nowadays watched and criticized due to various security reasons. Let them share their ideas and Iraq is also in the same situation. Let them continue to meet these challenges with grace and strength. <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.mymilitaryyears.com/" REL="nofollow"> Military troops, contacting service members, soldier support, army, navy, marines, air force, national guard, coast guard, department of defense, US troops, military forum, military messages </A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11753985.post-1154057019029283242006-07-27T22:23:00.000-05:002006-07-27T22:23:00.000-05:00Regardless of what most soldiers believe today, th...Regardless of what most soldiers believe today, they are careerists in a volunteer army. When I was in Vietnam, if someone had asked me what I thought of the war and LBJ, I would have told them to tell LBJ to shove the Vietnam War up his ass. But then, I didn't want to be there, didn't want to be in the Army and knew the worst thing the Army would do for saying such a thing would be to send me back to the jungle, where I was going anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11753985.post-1153951110276101302006-07-26T16:58:00.000-05:002006-07-26T16:58:00.000-05:00Hey MarkNormally I don't get into political argume...Hey Mark<BR/><BR/>Normally I don't get into political arguments or post much political stuff in my online journal. I am a wounded Marine Vet of OIF. I do read plenty of milblogs and many are supportive of the President or the war and a number seem against him or the war it. There are plenty of left leaning ones and some which are conservative too - just like America. <BR/><BR/>Polls and all of that don't fix the problems. I have only read this entry of yours, but discussions are good - first amendment and all of that. It is too bad both sides of the debate can't try to see the other side's position. Madison talked about factions in "Federalist #10" - it seems that our public conversations are so black and white we are destroying our own liberty. I am not saying you or anyone here is fitting that description. <BR/><BR/>No true warrior wants a war. We serve the "We" in "We the People" - you elect them we follow their orders. The system is not perfect and I would hope that everyone on both sides would try to look at each other in the color of what Madison talked about when he warned of such factions. <BR/><BR/>Not sure if that contributes much - just my take.<BR/><BR/>A.M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11753985.post-1153749133829533842006-07-24T08:52:00.000-05:002006-07-24T08:52:00.000-05:00In response to the courageous "Anonymous," if you ...In response to the courageous "Anonymous," if you think that the war in Iraq is about Halliburton's profits: (1) that's ad hominem; (2) you are not paying attention to what Halliburton's profits, relative to the war in Iraq really are. A profit margin of less than 3 percent really isn't all that impressive. (Should be closer to 10 percent before it's anything to write home about.) Even if that were not true, you are committing the logical fallacy of <I>post hoc ergo propter hoc</I>--not very impressive for someone who criticizes the logical reasoning skills of others. <BR/><BR/><I>Actually, I gave up arguing with BushBots a long time ago.</I> Really? It looks otherwise to me.<BR/><BR/><I>I will say this: a lot of you Bush-worshipping, Rush-listening Nazi brownshirts scare me a hell of a lot more than Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.</I> See? The ad hominem, again. When you complain about the reasoning capacity of your opponent and then do that sort of thing, it really doesn't establish your own credibility when it comes to logical reasoning. This inclines me to believe that the reason you find it difficult to reason with "BushBots" may be that you just have trouble reasoning at all.James Frank Solíshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694957546165747971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11753985.post-1153499464682604442006-07-21T11:31:00.000-05:002006-07-21T11:31:00.000-05:00To 'Anonymous'...."Class struggle is something a l...To 'Anonymous'...."Class struggle is something a lot of us are willing to die for"....but you can't post an identity with that sentence, like all us "sick Kool-Aid drinkers"who ARE willing to step out from anonymity?<BR/><BR/>I myself am much more frightened by people who resort to labels and name-calling for those who have a differing viewpoint from themselves, in an apparent effort to shut down intelligent discourse before it ever begins?But oh well...if you've already got such a closed mind,nothing I or anyone else says will open that back up.<BR/><BR/>And MARK......still extremely interested in WHICH blogs you read, that gave you such a jaundiced view?(But have pretty much given up that you'll reply to that)<BR/><BR/>Also, why not just get rid of the 'Chinese Spam" in the comments:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11753985.post-1153411132407174022006-07-20T10:58:00.000-05:002006-07-20T10:58:00.000-05:00In response to "Philologous Lector," you may think...In response to "Philologous Lector," you may think that "class struggle" is "bullshit." But it's a cause that a lot of us are fully prepared to die for. Personally, I think dying in Iraq to increase Halliburton's profits is bullshit, but maybe that's just me.<BR/>Actually, I gave up arguing with BushBots a long time ago. You can't use reason or logic with these sick Kool Aid drinkers.<BR/>I will say this: a lot of you Bush-worshipping, Rush-listening Nazi brownshirts scare me a hell of a lot more than Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11753985.post-1153404593270205562006-07-20T09:09:00.000-05:002006-07-20T09:09:00.000-05:00It's interesting that when confronted by the fact ...It's interesting that when confronted by the fact that milbloggers don't share your view, you immediately discount the probability (if not the bare possibility) that they are just better informed than you. No, when confronted with war-supporting milbloggers you decide that this must surely mean that the military are being censored, kept in the dark like mushrooms, or simply and mindlessly repeating Fox News talking points. (As if it isn't possible that Fox is getting its talking points from the milbloggers.) You so-called progressives can't make up your minds about the credibility of the military. On one hand, only those who have served in combat (Mertha, Kerry) are entitled to an opinion on war, while those who did not (much less serve) are not entitled to an opinion (Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, Hannity). But when confronted by those presently serving who still manage to be in favor of the war, you must speculate and make up facts in order to impeach their testimony. And that, right there, makes your opinion matter less than theirs. You're so filled with your Marxist class struggle bullshit ("ruling class" --give me a break) you've not taken the time to learn just how much access to information that troops really have.<BR/><BR/>By the way, which branch of the service were you in? I'm Army myself.James Frank Solíshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694957546165747971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11753985.post-1153396495239698512006-07-20T06:54:00.000-05:002006-07-20T06:54:00.000-05:00Its too bad Mark is either suffering from some syn...Its too bad Mark is either suffering from some synapic misfire or he is just plain stupid...<BR/><BR/>First off that Liberal biased slanted Zogby poll has been PROVEN endlessly to be misleading...and PROVEN to have been commissioned by someone who is ANTI BUSH & ANTI MILITARY.<BR/><BR/>The questions were written to elict the response HE wanted...and in fact the data has been interpreted by Zogby in a misguided way as to reflect the above agenda.<BR/><BR/>I wrote about that as well did many other online and print publications...altho the liberal media relegated that revelation to their back pages.<BR/><BR/>As for the Military censoring disident views...nope..milbloggers often write the truth...good bad or ugly...but they keep OPSEC in mind.<BR/>Truthfully no one in uniform is allowed to disparage the President..nor express political views one way or the other. <BR/><BR/>Which begs the question why is Murtha allowed to do so. Ahh well..that may soon change for Murtha. The rules of the Military apply to that bugger as well as those now serving. <BR/><BR/>The only propagandizing going on is in your mind..and that of all the left wing candy ass pro jihad pro terrorist pro communist lemmings on the left.<BR/><BR/>To ignore the truth that these terrorists we fight will slit the throats of the those on the left inspite of your support for them <BR/>only proves how much you live with your heads in the sand.<BR/><BR/>They hate secularists more than they hate Jews and Christians..they hate liberals in America who support freedom and democracy...they laughed at Carter when he "abandonned" the Embassy and hostages to Iran after his feckless policy created that mess...they laughed at Clinton's ineptitude when it came to realizing the threat Al Queda posed...and laughed harder when he refused an offer to have Bin Laden handed over to HIM by our friends in the M.E.<BR/><BR/>Its amazing what someone who understands Arabic and spent time in the M.E.....listening to the arab man on the street in cafes, shooppes, restaurants discussing his thoughts about America and Americans.<BR/><BR/>As for what the troops think. Re Enlistment numbers on the part of the National Guard and Reservists is huge...and career soldiers and Marines are willingly going back to Iraq because they KNOW they are doing alot more good than the media ever reports and then jerks like you and your left wing lemmings will ever be able to comprehend.<BR/><BR/>As for the "civil war" issue..<BR/>people define civil war differently...many feel that whats going on in Iraq is not a civil war by the accepted definition.<BR/><BR/>Until the newly elected Iraqi leader, Maliki states unequivocably that Iraq is now in a state of civil war...everyone will debate the term.<BR/><BR/>And you act as if civil war is sign of defeat. America broke into a multi year civil war over slavery..losing far more people than the war in Iraq during the same length of time. THe American Civil War didn't deter America from becoming a strong democracy...with no further civil wars since then.<BR/><BR/>So only a fool would use "civil war" as a mean of defining defeat...<BR/><BR/>If the dunce cap fits...DangerGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00607483726854879537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11753985.post-1153250537668060012006-07-18T14:22:00.000-05:002006-07-18T14:22:00.000-05:00I'm a milblogger and I consider myself a propagand...I'm a milblogger and I consider myself a propagandist. <BR/><BR/>http://op-for.com/2006/05/my_name_is_john_and_im_a_propa.html<BR/><BR/>Would be happy to discuss with you further.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11753985.post-1153206810631449052006-07-18T02:13:00.000-05:002006-07-18T02:13:00.000-05:00Sir I was wondering if it was possible for you t...Sir I was wondering if it was possible for you to list exactly which milblogs you read?<BR/><BR/>I have been reading milblogs for several years, and I seem to have missed the ones that are..."a bunch of right-wing/Fox News bullsh*t talking points and pro-Bush blather."?<BR/><BR/>And I'm sorry your "ability to see the troops in a positive light" was tested. Most of the milblogs I read seem to be by very honorable,astute men and women,who give me great hope for the future of this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com